On Bradtke he is brisk.I like it, Bradtke fills a clear need, if he's not up to it Narkle is handy.
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On Bradtke he is brisk.I like it, Bradtke fills a clear need, if he's not up to it Narkle is handy.
Hewett was a campaign in cotton wool, vintage West Coast, his skill set is easily top 10, this was the value pick in that range. Cowan slides to 30 which is strange to me, second best kick in the draft, leader, pace, I think he's another value selection. Keeler has the ability but maybe lacks a bit of mongrel but given he projects as a second ruck I think the odds of success are pretty good. I don't think Adelaide needed a forward either, they also didn't have a big hand to play with. Obviously there are few guarantees in life, it could go either way, I'm reasonably confident these guys pass the character test, Keeler has his fans, even in SA, once in the system he might lift the intensity, being a tall his value is unlikely to diminish, certainly not from a mid 40s pick. We also have to consider next year's first, there is still an element of the unknown. can't afford any slip ups from here.Whilst all the new top 30 picks look nice and shiny the things that stand out to me is the way clubs were looking to go out of the 2023 draft or get into the top 6/7 and throwing 2-3 first rounders at the trade
Bullus rates the 3 kids in Hewett , Cowan & Keeler as the picks we should have taken and he is a good judge but at the same time we have to also consider why the clubs didnt rate the picks after 6/7 ? was there such a massive drop off in talent ?
Hewett was selected at #14 by west coast , How much of that had to do with him being the best available WA kid rather than the best kid at that pick ? where would he have been selected if eagles didnt have that selection ?
Cowan was drafted by Carlton with pick #30 which the pies traded out to carlton for 2023 2nd rounder which most likely will be later than pick #30 with carlton expected to take the next step and play finals in 2023. For me thats a big call as the pies didnt rate him and were happy to take less and get out of that range
Keeler - I wanted him and would have been wrapped to get him , But is that due to our needs ? Is that due to his highlights and the similarities to Ryder ? Why did he slide past so many teams multiple times all the way to #44 in a weak'ish draft
Time will tell but i am still liking our trades for Taranto & Hopper
Taranto - #14 + #22
Hopper + (542 points) - F1 + ( 494 points )
Personally im thinking our picks were not really that great and if we had bundled them all up 14+22+34+f1 we would be lucky to get into the the top 6-7
Reported on here by @Redford that Hewitt had questions about his attitude and professionalism. There is risk attached.Hewett was a campaign in cotton wool, vintage West Coast, his skill set is easily top 10, this was the value pick in that range. Cowan slides to 30 which is strange to me, second best kick in the draft, leader, pace, I think he's another value selection. Keeler has the ability but maybe lacks a bit of mongrel but given he projects as a second ruck I think the odds of success are pretty good. I don't think Adelaide needed a forward either, they also didn't have a big hand to play with. Obviously there are few guarantees in life, it could go either way, I'm reasonably confident these guys pass the character test, Keeler has his fans, even in SA, once in the system he might lift the intensity, being a tall his value is unlikely to diminish, certainly not from a mid 40s pick. We also have to consider next year's first, there is still an element of the unknown. can't afford any slip ups from here.
Perhaps.Probs one key forward short.
Part of my reluctance with Hopper is his injury history, I'm also not a fan of 7 year deals unless it involves a key forward, that would be the exception to the rule.
Pies did it with Treloar & Grundy.Can't see that logic, if Mitchell bombs you move him out, can't do that with two 7 year deals, Hewett probably reaches Taranto standard in his third year, those two seem t.
Jack/Rance & AstburyI fully accept that Mitchell & Hewett doesn't fully equate to Taranto & Hopper in 2023, I've slightly weakened our hand in the short term but I've significantly improved our chances of bouncing back harder & faster when all the retirements start rolling in. You could say I'm having an each way bet, fair enough, but my focus isn't just next year, it's the next 5 years. One thing I've taken from the Jackson era was the need to take a tall every year, eventually the numbers game starts yielding results, Clake has been ok, he's got Gibcus, Balta, & Miller, he has shown a good eye for the most part but he still needs to prove himself in the key forward stakes. That will ultimately dictate whether he is the equal of Jackson or more of a flanker specialist. Jury still out for the moment.
Rather we go after someone like Treacy(Freo).Won't cost us much in either a pick or $ wise.Personally i think we made the right call with acquiring both Taranto & Hopper both for the now and future
Both these guys will give us 7-8 years of football (yes 8 years seems a bit much but thats in Taranto case as quality mids can play until 33/34 as we have seen with many quality champs and these 2 look like they will be)
We have drafted 8 young kids the last 2 drafts and they will need time and some wont make it but having players like both T and H
provides on and off field cover and leadership whilst keeping Richmond in a flag window.
Only things missing from a list situation is 2 x KPF but im thinking we are working on that
Thats why i personally like the Harry Himmelberg idea and if we could get him as a free agent then it instantly pushes out our window to 4-5 years and allows time to draft our own as no trade will be required
Also posters talking bout our T and H strategy as short term.
But it's long term too. By 2025 it's unlikely we have Cotch, Prestia or Dusty in the centre square.
Who s left but Graham, Shorty, Bakes, Ross. Shai.
Sonsie too but he,ll only be 21.
Top players but undermanned
It's unlikely a 2022 draftee is starting in the guts in 25.
So we have Hopper and Taranto for the years 2025 to 2030..
It's a long term strategy
(to go with the short term win flags strategy)
I wonder if it's not another Jack Darling westwash. Hewett is top-5 on potential for me.Reported on here by @Redford that Hewitt had questions about his attitude and professionalism. There is risk attached.
I think he’s a solid pick but I don’t think he’s in that range at all. And I don’t expect him to be a first line strike mid in three years.I wonder if it's not another Jack Darling westwash. Hewett is top-5 on potential for me.
This is the exact situation I would want to avoid, paying part salary, selling at below market rates. The salary cap squeeze can lead to some pretty undesirable outcomes.Pies did it with Treloar & Grundy.
If you redid the 2016 draft would you have Taranto at pick 2? Certainly not from my perspective. I'd have him at 7-8, about where I rate Hewett.This boy Hewett sounds amazing.
Taranto quality by his third year some on here reckon.
Geez we must have just bailed out of a super draft. What were we thinking?
If he’s that good, imagine the quality of the 13 that were picked ahead of him.
He has all the weapons, best sidestep in the pool, long range bombs from 50, has a very high 30+ possession ceiling. Two way running is the big question mark but once in the system I expect this to improve. Looking at the West Coast line-up he's Luke Shuey's heir apparent, I expect him to be spearheading that midfield by his third year.I think he’s a solid pick but I don’t think he’s in that range at all. And I don’t expect him to be a first line strike mid in three years.
Who are the 5-6 players you rate above Taranto from the 2016 draft ?If you redid the 2016 draft would you have Taranto at pick 2? Certainly not from my perspective. I'd have him at 7-8, about where I rate Hewett.
1. Hugh McCluggageWho are the 5-6 players you rate above Taranto from the 2016 draft ?
McClugguage - I would say TT has been better
Shai Bolton - Roughly same perhaps shai for his upside slightly higher
Florent - No
Graham - No
Ridley - No but close
English - No but very different position and should not be compared
Darcy - No similar to english different position
There really is not many players even close