Tigers of Old said:
Now now DD don't get too sensitive.
I am merely questioning how you can be so certain of TV becoming an elite starting ruck?
Draft history shows us that only a sprinkling of jnr rucks drafted in the top ten go on to be elite.
That said I can see the logic in us going for Vickery. As I said on the face of it he seems like an absolute ripper at that level. I am extremely impressed with what little I have seen.
However whether that transcends when he's playing against men in the AFL is a different kettle of fish. Particularly as many believe rucks don;'t do their best work until the mid 20s..
I guess what I am just saying that with our top ten pick we want to be as certain as possible of getting a quality player and to my mind midfielders are just a touch more reliable an option in the first round than rucks.
I will back whoever we pick and if the Vic is the one I won't be disappointed.
Thought ya knew me better than that ToO, lol, just being equally caustic back.
Obviously you haven't read my posts in other threads on this, I just try not to repeat myself.
I don't subscribe to the simplistic "all ruckmen are impossible to tell and not worth a risk". I have an excellent track record with rucks so am confident in my opinion on them ;D
Occasionally, and they are not in every draft, you see a Ruck that you know will be elite, therefore you would spend a 1st round on them. Sure the majority, and many highly touted ones, fall into disappointment or large speculation. I personally wasn't a fan of say a Meeson who went I think pick 8 to by coincidence.
Vickery is a blue chipper. No doubt about it. It's not about the physical traits as much as the mental application, reflexes, decision making...if you can add them to a motor and/or impressive agility. You've got a pretty decent package. It's a lot more than that, but as i said I've shared my opinion in detail elsewhere.
For me it's about being able to back your opinion and not being afraid to venture where others don't, because of other clubs bad choices.
Fraser, Hille, Ottens etc were not bad choices for very early 1st round picks. Vickery is in their company, all different styles obviously, but sure thing wise. I've been non plussed at some of the bomb ruckmen that went 1st round in recent years.
here Knockers ;D. If Trickery is available we pick him as our priority. If not it's out of Swift/Hartlett and I am leaning towards Swift as my preferred 2nd choice.
