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IMPORTANT // Please look after your loved ones, yourself and be kind to others. If you are feeling that the world is too hard to handle there is always help - I implore you not to hesitate in contacting one of these wonderful organisations Lifeline and Beyond Blue ... and I'm sure reaching out to our PRE community we will find a way to help. T.
The unvacced
- Thread starter Little Ziggyadee
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9/10 people in NT hospitals for Covid are indigenous. Many were confused and frightened by Facebook conspiracy theorists and were late getting vaccinated or didn’t get vaccinated. I’m really angry with the assholes who spread this bullshjit. A few people I love are going to die because of it. And they call it freedom…
No need to apologise. Anti-vaxxers are a threat to society.
There should be a register for Anti-vaxxers so we know when they try to move in to the neighbourhood.
The majority of surgeons who complain are those who work exclusively in private hospitals and can’t get access to theatres and beds because the private hospitals are handling some of the higher urgency elective cases for public hospitals.
I am sure there have been mistakes made ( like the IVF cancellations) but imo it is more about those guys losing their income than anything else.
There are rules set out about what is cat 1, 2 etc and they probably don’t agree with those rules but categorisation of elective cases is standard around the country.
If they can get work on public cases then they would get paid less as well, which is why so many like privately insured patients in private hospitals.
low death rates and good ICU care in Australia make that unlikely but thanks for caring TM
It is way worse than the common flu. We get very few people in hospital with the flu and almost noone who hasn’t got underlying health conditions or is old.
The numbers of extra beds required for winter flu in the health system is not even close to the number being required for COVID at the moment.
For quite a lot of people it is like a cold or the flu but the number for which it isn’t is way more than a normal flu strain. Not even in the same stratosphere.
The booster shot offers massively greater protection and a level of reduced transmission and will therefore reduce the call on our health resources. That’s not even remotely political, it’s common sense.
Nice post, respect the opinion and observations of one in the system rather than one pushing an agenda.
Common sense says it has to be worse than the flu, the flu has been almost dormant/non-existent since masks/social distancing/better hand hygiene has essentially been mandated.
It may end up that way MD, from what I have heard epidemiologists say it is possible that it just becomes one of the viral strains we vaccinate against.
It’s too early to tell but it’s not there yet.
The other thing is treatments and the vaccines themselves. The drug companies are spending enormous amounts of money on treatments and improving their vaccines and I am sure they will get there, the size of the potential market is a massive incentive for them to do it. The virus is only 2 years old and they have come a long way already.
I can also tell you that the public system is spending a lot of time planning what extra resources are needed to handle a new normal. My main concern is the labour question because this needs National planning to make sure we increase the pool of health professionals which starts with our tertiary education system and immigration policy.
I've read that SARS-COV2 can be considered a vascular disease that transmits through respiration - particularly in severe cases it's the blood clots and cytokine storms that get you, even though the virus infects airways - it's thought that the inflamed tissues in airways cause the blood clotting, encaphalitis, kidney damage and other negative affects that often kill those in ICUs.
It ain't the flu.
It’s much worse than the flu, I’m in a fifo camp where half the crew have come down with it . Some of us were affected badly with all night shivers and 5 minutes later sweating profusely. After a couple days it settles down to a hangover type feeling.
While other members in the crew only had minor symptoms. All double vaxxed.
My wife at home is double vaxxed and is very crook from it . She rang up for help and after telling the nurse she was double vaxxed the nurse said “it doesn’t make much difference.
My personal belief is the vaccine does stuff all. It doesn’t stop you getting it or stop the transmission. I’m not sure how much or at all it saves the severity. None of us do on here. This is just my opinion. I’m not interested in any debates on the issue. In fact I’ve found some of the responses to other peoples opinions on here disgusting.
We are on here because we all love the tigers, in fact it’s probably more than love it’s a way of life for some of us die hards.
We all come from different walks of life, different schooling and different circumstances and just because someone has a different opinion or belief doesn’t mean we have to get on here and go after them like key board warriors. We have lost some good posters on here over the years because of it.
No one in ICU or dead? Sounds like the double vaxx has done what is intended.
As for debates, no matter who they are, when people post internet fake *smile* downplaying a worldwide pandemic that has killed over 5.5 Million people worldwide, it needs to be challenged.
There's an odd belief these days that if you state it's an opinion you should get a free ride without being challenged. In my opinion, that's *smile*. If you don't want to risk your opinion being challenged, keep it to yourself. At least that's my personal belief and opinion.
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If the vaccine does nothing, why are the unvaccinated so over represented in hospital admissions, ICU admissions, those on ventilators and those who have died?
Yep, and why are the actual infectious diseases experts and epidemiolists saying it does. Must all be political and/or they have lots of shares in drug companies I guess.
This discussion should be moved I agree
Because a nurse said so .
Some peeps cannot see the forest for the trees.
There is one "Doctor". She has a PhD in womens studies. She's complaining about her own gender affirmation surgery being delayed. Personally I think they are triaging correctly if gender surgery is being postponed. Thailand should be open again soon. It has great dental hospitals but be careful not to get your gender changed while you wait.
