don't think that , you might have to eat your own words one day...................
But veganism? that’s a bridge too far for me.
don't think that , you might have to eat your own words one day...................
But veganism? that’s a bridge too far for me.
Yeah, I do that too. But only because they're my brothers n sometimes I have to socialise with family.like I even have a drink with a Cats supporter
The problem with a lot of this type of stuff, that often resorts to people hearing "they" want to cancel Christmas and what not, is that while someone might have good intentions "let them eat everything on the table", it deprives others.
I live in a country that's a good mix of Chinese, Malay and Indian cultures. They live their lives together quite peacefully and no one deprives others because of religion or culture.
At a banquet, or large food spread, there will be labels on all Halal food. Similar labels on all Vegetarian dishes. People eat what they want to eat without complaining that they are being marginalised because no one thought to order halal roast pork belly.
You travel through Malaysia, a very staunch Muslim country with muslim laws, during December and plastered everywhere in stores and malls is "Selamat Hari Natal", or Merry Christmas in Malay. They celebrate each others festivities and everyone is welcome to join in and celebrate.
So the next time you hear the "muslims" are trying to cancel Christmas or some other culture trying to cancel something else, there's a more likely chance that's it's actually some ignorant wannabe do gooder anglo saxon who is actually doing a lot more harm than good.
Douglas Murray - game, set and match.
The twit arguing with him - with the debating style and demeanour of a 13YO self righteous school girl activist - had no idea the entire time Douglas was reeling him in, hook, line and sinker, then….BAM, cut off his head with the fatal blow.
Turned as pink as his shirt with embarrassment mixed with indignant rage he was trying so hard not to just explode with.
I think on Piers Morgan’s show recently there have been quite a few discussion around the general culture of the LBGTIQ++++ political movement. All based around pride month.can you give us a clue as to what they are discussing?
I was in it more for Douglas Murray’s dry, eloquent wit than Rubin or Morgan.Thanks for the description... but classic Piers Morgan and Dave Rubin? There's three minutes I'll never get back.
WOKE: aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)
Definition of WOKE
aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice) —often used in contexts that suggest someone's expressed beliefs about such matters are not backed with genuine concern or action… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
Dont get sucked in by the bigots and racists from the right:
How the word ‘woke’ was weaponised by the right
The term is meant to denote an attentiveness to important issues. But the likes of Laurence Fox and Toby Young have begun using it in a very different waywww.theguardian.com
I was in it more for Douglas Murray’s dry, eloquent wit than Rubin or Morgan.
I did have a chuckle recently where I heard Murray mockingly suggest with a grin, that he has long been excommunicated from the “church of gay” for heresy.
There wasn't really much there. Refusal to use pronouns and commenting on that performer's gender identity? All pretty sad stuff.
Some additional comments he made in the past week on the issue. Taken from a longer interview he did regarding his thoughts on the pride movement and LBGTIQ cultural politics.
I missed this post from long ago Baloo and agree with you.The problem with a lot of this type of stuff, that often resorts to people hearing "they" want to cancel Christmas and what not, is that while someone might have good intentions "let them eat everything on the table", it deprives others.
I live in a country that's a good mix of Chinese, Malay and Indian cultures. They live their lives together quite peacefully and no one deprives others because of religion or culture.
At a banquet, or large food spread, there will be labels on all Halal food. Similar labels on all Vegetarian dishes. People eat what they want to eat without complaining that they are being marginalised because no one thought to order halal roast pork belly.
You travel through Malaysia, a very staunch Muslim country with muslim laws, during December and plastered everywhere in stores and malls is "Selamat Hari Natal", or Merry Christmas in Malay. They celebrate each others festivities and everyone is welcome to join in and celebrate.
So the next time you hear the "muslims" are trying to cancel Christmas or some other culture trying to cancel something else, there's a more likely chance that's it's actually some ignorant wannabe do gooder anglo saxon who is actually doing a lot more harm than good.
On the flip side. In my big pile of books I got for Christmas that I’m yet to get through, is one written by a journalist on the ground in the last year of the Yugoslavia before it broke up.I missed this post from long ago Baloo and agree with you.
In my time living in SEAsia all I ever saw was an acceptance of the different cultures because actually they are just part of their daily life. I went to end of fasting feasts as a guest, we had muslim friends over to our place for Christmas celebrations.
There is an undercurrent ( or at least there was) of acceptance of the status quo that underpins those societies however . The Chinese run Singapore, the bumi run Malaysia ( at least politically) and the same in Indonesia. We always need to remember that it is just 60 years ago when there was significant ethnic tensions and violence in those countries and that came to the surface again in Indonesia in the late 1990s with the economic crisis at that time. But by and large the general populations live very peacefully together and share each others cultures.
last year of the Yugoslavia before it broke up.
Talking about how they went from relatively good coexistence (not without well known faults of course), to eventually murdering each other in a quick passage of time. Where (ethnic) group identity took over as the fundamental definition of a person and hence it attached an assumed range of social and political views and perspectives, as well as grievances to a person (without nuance), based on their group identity, whether this was the reality of a person individually, or not.
Have a really good friend (older generation than I) who migrated at the height of it. He’s from Sarajevo. He finds himself at odds with essentially everyone. In that he refuses to identify as any the ethnic groupings. As far as he’s concerned, he was a Yugoslav and believed inherently in the Pan-Slavic project. There was always a small niche grouping of like minded people as him among the Yugoslav diaspora in Australia. They even had their own soccer club on the Sydney scene that punched on equally with the Croat and Serb clubs. He said to me seeing as Yugoslavia doesn’t exist, he is pretty much just Australian now. No such thing as an Aussie-Croat or Aussie-Serb in his eyes it seems. Simply, he is Aussie and his daughters who came as infants likewise are.That's a bit different I think. From growing up and knowing plenty of "Yugoslavian" families and friends, there was a real hatred between Serbs and Croats stemming from WWII I guess. Tito kept the country under control but when he died, it only took 10 years before Milosevic kicked off the civil war.
On the flip side. In my big pile of books I got for Christmas that I’m yet to get through, is one written by a journalist on the ground in the last year of the Yugoslavia before it broke up.
Talking about how they went from relatively good coexistence (not without well known faults of course), to eventually murdering each other in a quick passage of time. Where (ethnic) group identity took over as the fundamental definition of a person and hence it attached an assumed range of social and political views and perspectives, as well as grievances to a person (without nuance), based on their group identity, whether this was the reality of a person individually, or not. Obviously being assigned to a person both from within their group and from outside.
Just lead into a dangerous tunnel of perpetual assumption, suspicion and prejudice. And we all know the end results.
Not saying we are all going to start imminently murdering each other yet (well in the US they might, the circulation of guns makes that far easier). But it is one reflection on group identity politics.
Obviously horrific. But at the same time fascinating to me. My reading tastes are obviously very much not typical.Bloody Europeans, so tribal.
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